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Post by misssbird on Nov 26, 2006 8:37:35 GMT -12
Annie has been beaten into jumping in her past, so has been charging into the jumps in a panic. We've worked hard with this problem and it appears to be much better now. She's relaxed and trot into them calmly, or if the jumps bigger she'll pick up a steady canter of her own accord and jump nicely. However, if we ask for canter and then turn into the jump she charges off again. Any ideas on how to help this? The second problem is with fillers. I've tried moving them in slowly and that works ok, but she often refuses when she's turned to a new one straight under the jump. Advice? Thanks guys  |
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Post by jadecurtis on Nov 26, 2006 9:37:19 GMT -12
hmmm dont really know what about cantering her around the jump so she is use to cantering near it but with out the excitment of actually jumping, that normally helps me even if i spend most of the lesson looking at the jump!
cant help with the fillers though, is she genrally scared or is she just being a stroppy mare?
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Post by misssbird on Nov 26, 2006 9:42:30 GMT -12
She is a spooky mare. she stops and has a good look, then will usually jump next time round
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Post by cubic on Nov 26, 2006 11:10:23 GMT -12
With the rushing in to fences (as long as she's a keen jumper) I've been taught to bring them in to a fairly small jump and if they start rushing at any ponit, bring them back to halt then walk and/or trot into the jump (depending on how far away you are). Eventually they learn that rushing doesn't get them anywhere fast.
I think you're doing your best with the fillers. Have you got any fillers that are small enough for her to get over from a standstill so you can get over then first time and build them up?
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Post by Miss M on Nov 26, 2006 22:53:24 GMT -12
to be honest Im an old fart when it comes to jumping and insist that all horses or ponies have to be balanced in trot and especially canter before I start jumping them. Rushing is a sign of the horse being unbalanced and worrying about jumping the fence. I was always taught if they rush to turn the horse in a circle before the jump and do not allow them to jump the jump, untill they approach the fence in a quiet balanced way.
I would concentrate on the small cross fence till I mastered this before introducing fillres etc. By the sounds of it she has lost confidence, which can also affect you, by the way she is jumping and her attitude to fillers etc
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Post by dolsey on Nov 27, 2006 5:24:29 GMT -12
When horses rush with me, like Raz used to do I just turn them away and make them walk for a bit near the jump, then try again and repeat it until they actually learn it does nothing for them! Worked every time with him. For fillers/jumps, Dolsey is THE worst for stopping and having a good look! She does it out of habit now I think  What I do is just trot and canter around the jump when I go in to the ring or when I'm schooling ta home, then turn into the jump as if it's just a plain one. If you're worrying about it being a filler, she will too!  |
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Post by misssbird on Nov 27, 2006 10:14:17 GMT -12
Looks like I won't be using these tips for a while now, yet again.
Thanks for them all. I'll sit down with fuzz (who jumps her, I'm a coward) and work out a plan of action.
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Post by suneagle on Dec 16, 2006 9:37:03 GMT -12
if she gets nervious and spooky when jumps are up, then just work her with jumps untill shes relax and blanced then progress up to acually jumping a couple.
rushing well as miss m said make sure your horse is nice, blanced and relax, theres no good jumping a horse whos not let aknown a horse thats lost there conferdance in jumping, only attack the fence when you feel shes ready... also dont OVER JUMP her only jump say one fence afew times and end on a really good note, sometimes horses behave worst when they just jump and jump and jump for 1/2hr on end, my friend has showjumpers and he only rides for 3/4hr and will only jump for 20mins at a time for an experiance horse.
with the fillers, try when you have the jumps up (as above) ones you are not jumping are fillers so she gets used to looking at them, and riding around them then slowly start interducing them.
its common for horses not to like fillers as when they are riding into a fence they are looking at the ground line and and normally they can see through normal jumps, but when a horse comes to a filler or solid fence the ground line is broken and they cant see beond the jump so some get nervious and refuse because they havent got "full trust" in the rider, work on trust aswell.
it will take time but you'll slowly get here!
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Post by nat on Dec 19, 2006 9:17:36 GMT -12
With regard to him cantering fast into the jumps this is a classic sign of panic and you need to do more ground work/pole work with him to bring up his confidence.
With the fillers you can have lots of fun gaining his confidence - why don't you get 2 fillers and make a 'tunnel' with them and get him to walk through the 'tunnel' with you on the ground to begin with and make him halt when he is right in between the 2 fillers, give him lots of praise, let him sniff and look at the fillers and this way you will be de-sensitising him to the scarey colours.
Once he has got used to that when you are on the ground, pop up and ride him through it, you will be suprised as to how quickly they learn its not going to hurt!!!
Good luck
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Post by colleenishfilly on Feb 12, 2007 7:52:40 GMT -12
you will get there ... concentrate on your flat work for now if your a lil down hearted ,work with trotting and cantering poles xx
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What I do is just trot and canter around the jump when I go in to the ring or when I'm schooling ta home, then turn into the jump as if it's just a plain one. If you're worrying about it being a filler, she will too! 